Il ministro della giustizia del Belgio, Vincent Van Quickenborne, è intervenuto al congresso dell'ESWA (coalizione europea per i diritti e l'inclusione delle prostitute) il 13 ottobre 2022.
Ha illustrato i benefici della depenalizzazione della prostituzione introdotta in Belgio dallo scorso primo di giugno. Ha poi spiegato come si batterà nel consiglio europeo affinchè lo stesso avvenga in tutti i paesi della unione europea.
Qui il video della conferenza (l'intervento del ministro comincia circa a 1:48:43 e continua fino a 2:05:38).
Qui la trascrizione dell'intervento (in inglese):
Host Sophie Int’l Veld, the Netherlands, RENEW Europe Group:
I am very pleased that we have just been joined by Minister van Quickenborne, and I suggest that you give him the same roaring applause that you gave him in his absence. (Applause.) (…)
Vincent Van Quickenborne, Minister of Justice, Belgium:
Thank you Sophia, thank you, Ladies & Gentlemen, thank you for having me here today, it’s a very special occasion. I would also like to thank the members of the European Parliament here present today that are active in the battle. Of course, also to you, Sophia, as president for today, members also of the European Sexworkers‘ Alliance, representatives, you, of course, PhDs, Academics. First of all, of course welcome to Brussels, the heart of Belgium, the heart of Europe, but also Belgium, the first european country to decriminalize sex work (applause). Well, thank you, I applaud this initiative to gather all sex workers, right, in one form or another. No matter the cultural or societal norms, it is and has always been a certainty: Wherever there are people living together, there are people who choose to be sexworkers and there are people looking for the services they offer. What is almost always a certainty around the world as well, unfortunately, is the hypocrisy with which it is often treated. At best it’s tolerated but frowned upon, existing in a legal gray zone. At worst, governments actively pursue people, engaging in what is a natural phenomenon between consenting adults. Until recently, my country, Belgium, was not an exception to that rule. Over 27000 sexworkers are active in Belgium. And in Belgium it was quietly tolerated, swept under the rug in the shippers‘ quarters, hidden behind the facades of shadowy bars. Giving the impression to sexworkers and their clients that it’s something to be ashamed about, not talked about, leaving sexworkers on their own to deal with the very real threats of abuse, of exploitation and discrimination. Not protected by the law, on the contrary.
When I took office as a minister of justice of Belgium two years ago, I wanted justice to be faster, more humane, and more effective. And that is the approach we took in legislating sexwork.
Allow me to explain: The first principle is faster which you can take quite literally: We’ve decriminalized sexwork since last June. And it wasn’t a moment too soon. The COVID19 crisis had highlighted once again the difficulties faced by sexworkers, who had been left without an income, without unemployment benefits, or a social safety net, something which other professions all did receive. When the introduction of the new sexual criminal law in our country went effective from the 1st of June, sexwork was removed from the penal code. And I am proud to say that the oldest job in the world, as the cliché has it, is now the newest protected profession in Belgium. (Applause.) I want to thank UTSOPI, the Belgium sexworkers‘ advocacy group, for working with us on that. (Applause.) It was thanks to their advice that we did not choose to legalize sexwork but to decriminalize it. Because decriminalization ensures that selfemployed sexworkers just fall under normal labour laws. Legalization does not work in our view because it requires specific rules and regulations for a sector. And contrary as it may seem, experiences in other countries have shown that this results in too many sexworkers that remain in illegality. Because these rules create extra barriers. Legalization, how well intended it may be in different countries, starts on the wrong foot: It is telling sexworkers that they are outside of the law. But if they comply with a certain set of rules, they can then enjoy the protection of our law. Decriminalization, however, turns that paradigm around. Sexworkers always enjoy the full protection of the law, it is always abuse and exploit sexworkers that are outside of the law. (Applause.)
That brings me to the second guiding principle: Justice should be more humane. We have taken the job of sexworkers out of illegality and given them equal social rights like all other working people in our country. We give them the recognition they always deserved: this is the only humane approach. Since the removal of sexwork from the penal codes, sexworkers in our country can finally enter into legal contracts with a bank, with an accountant, with a driver, with a lawyer, with a landlord, because under the old criminal law these people I mentioned, were formally at risk of being prosecuted, because they facilitated sexwork and profited from it. Today sexworkers are protected, and they can offer sexual services on a self-employed basis. The law also states that sexworkers are allowed to enter into an employment contract. However, due to the nature of Belgium labour laws, this means that a social statute for sexworkers as employees needs to be developed, just as it is necessary for every other profession. What I want is transparency in the same rights for sexworkers as every other employee in our country and in Europe, a decent wage, a cap on the number of hours work in the week, syndicates, the right to strike, maternity leave, and much, much more. These are all things that every other employee in Belgium takes for granted, but does not yet exist for sexworkers. This falls under the authority of my two colleagues, the minister of work, Pierre-Yves Dermagne of the Socialist party, and the minister for the Self-Employed, David Clarinval for the French Speaking Liberal Party. And they both have my full support in realizing this. At the end of this month our cabinets will meet again for that. Of course, with your pressure and your speed, this should be allowed as soon as possible. Of course I look forward to hear your recommendation on the social statute for sexworkers, that is important for me.
And then the third principle, a justice that is more effective: 80% of sexworkers in Belgium do so by their own free choice – 80%, 80%! But we must not forget that some women, and sometimes men, are forced into sexwork. Think of victims of human trafficking or minors. That is why the new penal code clearly states that abuse and exploitation of sexwork, underage sexwork, and forced sexwork, are criminal offenses. Luckily, decriminalization makes our laws more effective in pursuing the people who take advantage of sexworkers. Removing the gray area leaves behind a more black and white distinction. And criminal offenses like abuse, human trafficking, and prostitution of minors are much easier to detect and empowers victims, our witnesses, to report these crimes. That is what we have witnessed in New Zealand, because when they decriminalized sexworkers, they had the courage to go to the police, and the police today in New Zealand are partners of sexworkers. … We’ve given more detectives to the federal judicial police in our country, especially for that purpose. We’ve given extra funds to the three centers that help and shelter victims of sexwork abuse. Because the gray zone is that criminals thrive in. And by recognizing and respecting sexworkers who choose this profession as free adults, we can go after the criminals that exploit sexworkers.
Ladies and Gentlemen, let me be very clear: Every country in Europe should decriminalize sexwork. (Applause.) In every country in Europe and every country in the world are thousands upon thousands of sexworkers. Laws that put them at risk, laws that make them feel ashamed of who they choose to be, they have no place in a civilized society. Sexworkers are people with perfectly normal and fulfilling jobs, they deserve equal protection everywhere. Let’s spread that message around the world, starting with the European Union. That is why this European Parliament is perhaps the most appropriate setting. I hereby ask all MEPs present here today to firmly support this cause so that the European Union can be a place where sexworkers can stand tall, can be proud of who they are, without having to fear prosecution, and enjoying the full protection of the law. I am certain that this day will come. And you can count on me for making sure that they come sooner rather than later. Thank you! (Big Applause.)
Sophie Int’l Veld: Thank you very much. I think the applause says it all. I think the Belgium approach is exemplary in every way. I am also very pleased to see that this whole process has been done in very close consultation with the people concerned. Because that is one of the things that always bugs me: that when you’re talking about sexworkers then people are talking about sexworkers; I always say why don’t we talk with them? You know people can say what it is that they need, that they want, they can make their views known as Sabrina has done very eloquently before. And you also mentioned hypocrisy: in particularly these days, it’s unpalatable that the same people who think that sexwork should be criminalized are the people who think it’s ok to do business with the war criminal in the Kremlin. (Applause.) I mean if there’s a real criminal which of the two is really immoral? Okay, thank you very much for this.
Vincent Van Quickenborne: I have to go to the Belgian Parliament now.
Sophie Int’l Veld: You’ve to go to the Belgian Parliament, ok, but I think we forgive you, because your contribution has been massive, and I think you can count on us. I mean, let’s be real: there is still a long road ahead of us, also in the European Parliament. But if I see today’s event, and I compare it to the very first time many years ago when we organized something around this theme, when we had a very small group of people, and we got a lot of criticism, things are changing. And I think you have proven that it can change. Belgium is leading the way, and we are going to do our utmost to make sure that other parts of Europe will follow.
Vincent Van Quickenborne: Are there any plans for a European Resolution on the table to ask for a decriminalization of sexwork in Europe?
Sophie Int’l Veld: Well, there are plans for a resolution, and if it’s up to us, then it will call for decriminalization. We’ll work very, very hard to get a majority but it’s going to be a hotly disputed topic, I’m sure.
Vicent Van Quickenborne: Don’t you think there could be a majority at the European Parliament for this cause? No?
Sophie Int’l Veld: If you ask today … but we’re going to talk to every single one of our colleagues and try to convince them. As I said: you know we started a long time ago, and then the topic was taboo. Now we have a room full of people, we have four different parliamentary groups represented here. The time will come and we’ll do it as quickly as we can.
Vincent Van Quickenborne: Well, anyway, when Belgium will be the president of the European Council in the beginning of 2024, I as a minister of justice plan to pull it on the table of an informal council, for the first time.
Sophie Int’l Veld: Wow! (Big Applause.)
Vincent Van Quickenborne: I will ask my colleagues, and there are 27 in total, all of them, of all European countries, to come forward, and to speak clear and loud what they think about it. Because I am convinced that when you have a personal talk to them, many of them, not all of them, but many of them, will applaud this initiative, I am sure of that. So let’s start this movement out of the European Parliament to convince all European countries to change and to do what we’re doing. Thank you!
Sophie Int’l Veld: Thank you very much. (Applause.)
Dubito fortemente che riuscirà nel suo lodevole intento perché è una guerra persa in partenza...
Siamo in Europa.
Un coacervo di nazioni tenute insieme con la vinavil in una unione che di unito ha poco e nulla, dove buona parte di queste nazioni sono infestati o dalla più becera corrente femminista o dal bigottismo cattolico più oscurantista.
Il problema secondo me non è nemmeno una questione puramente politica quanto sociale, sempre in virtù di quale stato europeo si vuole analizzare considerando alcune ben note eccezioni...
Proviamo ad immaginare come reagirebbe il popolo bue in Italia se la Meloni domani mattina annunciasse di voler autorizzare l'apertura di luoghi adibiti alla prostituzione regolamentata 😆😆😆 non oso neanche immaginare!
Dico in Italia giusto x fare un esempio pratico ma garantisco che anche qui in Polonia una situazione analoga provocherebbe uno sconquasso sociale inimmaginabile.
Senza contare le nazioni che hanno già adottato da anni la "linea dura" e chi si sta preparando ad adottarla a breve termine... Non credo serva aggiungere altro.
Grande iniziativa, anche io sono scettico,scopiamo zoccole finché possiamo, dopo ci rimarranno solo le bambole gonfiabili
la bava di bagascia,utile per ogni fregna del mondo intero
certe coppie sono assieme per lo stesso motivo che io quando cago,porto un giornale da leggere:solo per ammazzare il tempo...
to pay 4 to fuck.....
@Trombamico said:
Dubito fortemente che riuscirà nel suo lodevole intento perché è una guerra persa in partenza...
Siamo in Europa.
Un coacervo di nazioni tenute insieme con la vinavil in una unione che di unito ha poco e nulla, dove buona parte di queste nazioni sono infestati o dalla più becera corrente femminista o dal bigottismo cattolico più oscurantista.
Il problema secondo me non è nemmeno una questione puramente politica quanto sociale, sempre in virtù di quale stato europeo si vuole analizzare considerando alcune ben note eccezioni...
Proviamo ad immaginare come reagirebbe il popolo bue in Italia se la Meloni domani mattina annunciasse di voler autorizzare l'apertura di luoghi adibiti alla prostituzione regolamentata 😆😆😆 non oso neanche immaginare!
Dico in Italia giusto x fare un esempio pratico ma garantisco che anche qui in Polonia una situazione analoga provocherebbe uno sconquasso sociale inimmaginabile.
Senza contare le nazioni che hanno già adottato da anni la "linea dura" e chi si sta preparando ad adottarla a breve termine... Non credo serva aggiungere altro.
Che poi il Gverno Meloni sarebbe proprio l'ultimo a fare una cosa del genere, visto il concentrato di bigotti, ipocriti, moralisti e falsi cattolici di cui è composto
Situazione che in Italia non avrà mai alcuna chance nonostante qualche partito politico propone da tempo di porre quantomeno una "regolazione" del mestiere. Le ombre del clero sono troppo invadenti e soprattutto influenti; ringraziamo il cielo che almeno nel nostro paese dal cattolicesimo non è scaturita -ancora- nessuna forma di sharia (leggi basate su tradizioni religiose) come accaduto ormai da circa un decennio in paesi come la Polonia, dove viene imposto per legge la chiusura degli esercizi commerciali "non indispensabili" di domenica, l'oscuramento dei più noti siti di escort locali ed altre amenità simili....
Per non parlare di altri paesi quali la Svezia e la Francia dove proibiscono perfino il libero esercizio della prostituzione per meri motivi ideologici.
In Italia non siamo messi affatto cosi male, l'offerta c'è ed è anche parecchio variegata; chi è disposto a pagare bene potrà godere di miglior qualità, mentre chi cerca il risparmio dovrà accontentarsi di qualità più scadente e tempi molto stretti.
Quindi non ci lamentiamo più di tanto, c'è davvero di molto peggio in giro per l'Europa e non solo.
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kerouac
06/11/2022 | 20:19
Silver
Il ministro della giustizia del Belgio, Vincent Van Quickenborne, è intervenuto al congresso dell'ESWA (coalizione europea per i diritti e l'inclusione delle prostitute) il 13 ottobre 2022.
Ha illustrato i benefici della depenalizzazione della prostituzione introdotta in Belgio dallo scorso primo di giugno. Ha poi spiegato come si batterà nel consiglio europeo affinchè lo stesso avvenga in tutti i paesi della unione europea.
Qui il video della conferenza (l'intervento del ministro comincia circa a 1:48:43 e continua fino a 2:05:38).
Qui la trascrizione dell'intervento (in inglese):
Host Sophie Int’l Veld, the Netherlands, RENEW Europe Group:
I am very pleased that we have just been joined by Minister van Quickenborne, and I suggest that you give him the same roaring applause that you gave him in his absence. (Applause.) (…)
Vincent Van Quickenborne, Minister of Justice, Belgium:
Thank you Sophia, thank you, Ladies & Gentlemen, thank you for having me here today, it’s a very special occasion. I would also like to thank the members of the European Parliament here present today that are active in the battle. Of course, also to you, Sophia, as president for today, members also of the European Sexworkers‘ Alliance, representatives, you, of course, PhDs, Academics. First of all, of course welcome to Brussels, the heart of Belgium, the heart of Europe, but also Belgium, the first european country to decriminalize sex work (applause). Well, thank you, I applaud this initiative to gather all sex workers, right, in one form or another. No matter the cultural or societal norms, it is and has always been a certainty: Wherever there are people living together, there are people who choose to be sexworkers and there are people looking for the services they offer. What is almost always a certainty around the world as well, unfortunately, is the hypocrisy with which it is often treated. At best it’s tolerated but frowned upon, existing in a legal gray zone. At worst, governments actively pursue people, engaging in what is a natural phenomenon between consenting adults. Until recently, my country, Belgium, was not an exception to that rule. Over 27000 sexworkers are active in Belgium. And in Belgium it was quietly tolerated, swept under the rug in the shippers‘ quarters, hidden behind the facades of shadowy bars. Giving the impression to sexworkers and their clients that it’s something to be ashamed about, not talked about, leaving sexworkers on their own to deal with the very real threats of abuse, of exploitation and discrimination. Not protected by the law, on the contrary.
When I took office as a minister of justice of Belgium two years ago, I wanted justice to be faster, more humane, and more effective. And that is the approach we took in legislating sexwork.
Allow me to explain: The first principle is faster which you can take quite literally: We’ve decriminalized sexwork since last June. And it wasn’t a moment too soon. The COVID19 crisis had highlighted once again the difficulties faced by sexworkers, who had been left without an income, without unemployment benefits, or a social safety net, something which other professions all did receive. When the introduction of the new sexual criminal law in our country went effective from the 1st of June, sexwork was removed from the penal code. And I am proud to say that the oldest job in the world, as the cliché has it, is now the newest protected profession in Belgium. (Applause.) I want to thank UTSOPI, the Belgium sexworkers‘ advocacy group, for working with us on that. (Applause.) It was thanks to their advice that we did not choose to legalize sexwork but to decriminalize it. Because decriminalization ensures that selfemployed sexworkers just fall under normal labour laws. Legalization does not work in our view because it requires specific rules and regulations for a sector. And contrary as it may seem, experiences in other countries have shown that this results in too many sexworkers that remain in illegality. Because these rules create extra barriers. Legalization, how well intended it may be in different countries, starts on the wrong foot: It is telling sexworkers that they are outside of the law. But if they comply with a certain set of rules, they can then enjoy the protection of our law. Decriminalization, however, turns that paradigm around. Sexworkers always enjoy the full protection of the law, it is always abuse and exploit sexworkers that are outside of the law. (Applause.)
That brings me to the second guiding principle: Justice should be more humane. We have taken the job of sexworkers out of illegality and given them equal social rights like all other working people in our country. We give them the recognition they always deserved: this is the only humane approach. Since the removal of sexwork from the penal codes, sexworkers in our country can finally enter into legal contracts with a bank, with an accountant, with a driver, with a lawyer, with a landlord, because under the old criminal law these people I mentioned, were formally at risk of being prosecuted, because they facilitated sexwork and profited from it. Today sexworkers are protected, and they can offer sexual services on a self-employed basis. The law also states that sexworkers are allowed to enter into an employment contract. However, due to the nature of Belgium labour laws, this means that a social statute for sexworkers as employees needs to be developed, just as it is necessary for every other profession. What I want is transparency in the same rights for sexworkers as every other employee in our country and in Europe, a decent wage, a cap on the number of hours work in the week, syndicates, the right to strike, maternity leave, and much, much more. These are all things that every other employee in Belgium takes for granted, but does not yet exist for sexworkers. This falls under the authority of my two colleagues, the minister of work, Pierre-Yves Dermagne of the Socialist party, and the minister for the Self-Employed, David Clarinval for the French Speaking Liberal Party. And they both have my full support in realizing this. At the end of this month our cabinets will meet again for that. Of course, with your pressure and your speed, this should be allowed as soon as possible. Of course I look forward to hear your recommendation on the social statute for sexworkers, that is important for me.
And then the third principle, a justice that is more effective: 80% of sexworkers in Belgium do so by their own free choice – 80%, 80%! But we must not forget that some women, and sometimes men, are forced into sexwork. Think of victims of human trafficking or minors. That is why the new penal code clearly states that abuse and exploitation of sexwork, underage sexwork, and forced sexwork, are criminal offenses. Luckily, decriminalization makes our laws more effective in pursuing the people who take advantage of sexworkers. Removing the gray area leaves behind a more black and white distinction. And criminal offenses like abuse, human trafficking, and prostitution of minors are much easier to detect and empowers victims, our witnesses, to report these crimes. That is what we have witnessed in New Zealand, because when they decriminalized sexworkers, they had the courage to go to the police, and the police today in New Zealand are partners of sexworkers. … We’ve given more detectives to the federal judicial police in our country, especially for that purpose. We’ve given extra funds to the three centers that help and shelter victims of sexwork abuse. Because the gray zone is that criminals thrive in. And by recognizing and respecting sexworkers who choose this profession as free adults, we can go after the criminals that exploit sexworkers.
Ladies and Gentlemen, let me be very clear: Every country in Europe should decriminalize sexwork. (Applause.) In every country in Europe and every country in the world are thousands upon thousands of sexworkers. Laws that put them at risk, laws that make them feel ashamed of who they choose to be, they have no place in a civilized society. Sexworkers are people with perfectly normal and fulfilling jobs, they deserve equal protection everywhere. Let’s spread that message around the world, starting with the European Union. That is why this European Parliament is perhaps the most appropriate setting. I hereby ask all MEPs present here today to firmly support this cause so that the European Union can be a place where sexworkers can stand tall, can be proud of who they are, without having to fear prosecution, and enjoying the full protection of the law. I am certain that this day will come. And you can count on me for making sure that they come sooner rather than later. Thank you! (Big Applause.)
Sophie Int’l Veld: Thank you very much. I think the applause says it all. I think the Belgium approach is exemplary in every way. I am also very pleased to see that this whole process has been done in very close consultation with the people concerned. Because that is one of the things that always bugs me: that when you’re talking about sexworkers then people are talking about sexworkers; I always say why don’t we talk with them? You know people can say what it is that they need, that they want, they can make their views known as Sabrina has done very eloquently before. And you also mentioned hypocrisy: in particularly these days, it’s unpalatable that the same people who think that sexwork should be criminalized are the people who think it’s ok to do business with the war criminal in the Kremlin. (Applause.) I mean if there’s a real criminal which of the two is really immoral? Okay, thank you very much for this.
Vincent Van Quickenborne: I have to go to the Belgian Parliament now.
Sophie Int’l Veld: You’ve to go to the Belgian Parliament, ok, but I think we forgive you, because your contribution has been massive, and I think you can count on us. I mean, let’s be real: there is still a long road ahead of us, also in the European Parliament. But if I see today’s event, and I compare it to the very first time many years ago when we organized something around this theme, when we had a very small group of people, and we got a lot of criticism, things are changing. And I think you have proven that it can change. Belgium is leading the way, and we are going to do our utmost to make sure that other parts of Europe will follow.
Vincent Van Quickenborne: Are there any plans for a European Resolution on the table to ask for a decriminalization of sexwork in Europe?
Sophie Int’l Veld: Well, there are plans for a resolution, and if it’s up to us, then it will call for decriminalization. We’ll work very, very hard to get a majority but it’s going to be a hotly disputed topic, I’m sure.
Vicent Van Quickenborne: Don’t you think there could be a majority at the European Parliament for this cause? No?
Sophie Int’l Veld: If you ask today … but we’re going to talk to every single one of our colleagues and try to convince them. As I said: you know we started a long time ago, and then the topic was taboo. Now we have a room full of people, we have four different parliamentary groups represented here. The time will come and we’ll do it as quickly as we can.
Vincent Van Quickenborne: Well, anyway, when Belgium will be the president of the European Council in the beginning of 2024, I as a minister of justice plan to pull it on the table of an informal council, for the first time.
Sophie Int’l Veld: Wow! (Big Applause.)
Vincent Van Quickenborne: I will ask my colleagues, and there are 27 in total, all of them, of all European countries, to come forward, and to speak clear and loud what they think about it. Because I am convinced that when you have a personal talk to them, many of them, not all of them, but many of them, will applaud this initiative, I am sure of that. So let’s start this movement out of the European Parliament to convince all European countries to change and to do what we’re doing. Thank you!
Sophie Int’l Veld: Thank you very much. (Applause.)
INCONTRA DONNE VOGLIOSETrombamico
06/11/2022 | 22:30
Wrocław
Gold
Dubito fortemente che riuscirà nel suo lodevole intento perché è una guerra persa in partenza...
TROVA HOSTESS PER CENESiamo in Europa.
Un coacervo di nazioni tenute insieme con la vinavil in una unione che di unito ha poco e nulla, dove buona parte di queste nazioni sono infestati o dalla più becera corrente femminista o dal bigottismo cattolico più oscurantista.
Il problema secondo me non è nemmeno una questione puramente politica quanto sociale, sempre in virtù di quale stato europeo si vuole analizzare considerando alcune ben note eccezioni...
Proviamo ad immaginare come reagirebbe il popolo bue in Italia se la Meloni domani mattina annunciasse di voler autorizzare l'apertura di luoghi adibiti alla prostituzione regolamentata 😆😆😆 non oso neanche immaginare!
Dico in Italia giusto x fare un esempio pratico ma garantisco che anche qui in Polonia una situazione analoga provocherebbe uno sconquasso sociale inimmaginabile.
Senza contare le nazioni che hanno già adottato da anni la "linea dura" e chi si sta preparando ad adottarla a breve termine... Non credo serva aggiungere altro.
bagascia
07/11/2022 | 12:48
monza | 36-50
Gold
Grande iniziativa, anche io sono scettico,scopiamo zoccole finché possiamo, dopo ci rimarranno solo le bambole gonfiabili
la bava di bagascia,utile per ogni fregna del mondo intero
certe coppie sono assieme per lo stesso motivo che io quando cago,porto un giornale da leggere:solo per ammazzare il tempo...
to pay 4 to fuck.....
Aze
08/11/2022 | 18:14 51-100
Silver
@kerouac
INCONTRA DONNE VOGLIOSEForza Vincent hai tutto il mio appoggio
kerouac
07/05/2023 | 12:55
Silver
Profetico, infatti i membri del parlamento europeo stanno già litigando:
https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/eu-lawmakers-divided-over-european-approach-to-regulate-sex-work/
E meno male, perchè se si dovesse concordare per la bozza di regolamentazione che già circola, la strada per il modello svedese sarebbe già spianata.
TROVA HOSTESS PER CENEponchia7
14/05/2023 | 18:43
Newbie
Dadomatto
29/11/2023 | 19:30
Newbie
Sarebbe interessante raggiungere una situazione come un germania
INCONTRA DONNE VOGLIOSEYeppa97
13/08/2024 | 00:55
Newbie
@Dadomatto Siamo nel paese sbagliato per auspicarlo
TROVA HOSTESS PER CENETrombeur
13/08/2024 | 23:54
PD
Silver
Situazione che in Italia non avrà mai alcuna chance nonostante qualche partito politico propone da tempo di porre quantomeno una "regolazione" del mestiere. Le ombre del clero sono troppo invadenti e soprattutto influenti; ringraziamo il cielo che almeno nel nostro paese dal cattolicesimo non è scaturita -ancora- nessuna forma di sharia (leggi basate su tradizioni religiose) come accaduto ormai da circa un decennio in paesi come la Polonia, dove viene imposto per legge la chiusura degli esercizi commerciali "non indispensabili" di domenica, l'oscuramento dei più noti siti di escort locali ed altre amenità simili....
Leggi le recensioni ESCORT e non farti fregare, trova la ESCORT nella tua cittàPer non parlare di altri paesi quali la Svezia e la Francia dove proibiscono perfino il libero esercizio della prostituzione per meri motivi ideologici.
In Italia non siamo messi affatto cosi male, l'offerta c'è ed è anche parecchio variegata; chi è disposto a pagare bene potrà godere di miglior qualità, mentre chi cerca il risparmio dovrà accontentarsi di qualità più scadente e tempi molto stretti.
Quindi non ci lamentiamo più di tanto, c'è davvero di molto peggio in giro per l'Europa e non solo.